numismax wrote:Yup..but the main reason they don't sell it is simply because it's a difficult coin to get. Ebay prices speaks for itself. Come January, we'll know more.
I don't agree with you on that one, it is not difficult to get, you just have to pay the speculants!
A lot of serious dealers simply don't want to get involved in such practices, especially because nobody can tell at the moment if a normal issue will follow.
When you buy such a coin at a serious dealer now and see it for a fraction of the price within a month, you think twice before you buy from such a dealer again...
but just imagine paying postage costs abroad
I guess you also charge postage costs, so why mention it for the other sellers in Finland
numismax wrote:One thing I agree with is the stupid way how Moneta is selling this coin. Should've been available in rolls at 65-70€ like previous years.
Where do you have information Nordic Moneta is actually selling those coins already? Last year they were sold by Finnish Mint, but that changed in the new tenders. Personally I think the coins sold now are not through the official circuit, but just intercepted somewhere in the trajectory from Finnish Mint to the shops who should put them in circulation, because they can make quite a lot of money for them, about 15-20 euro for each coin!!
numismax wrote:I'll reiterate that I do not know with 100% certainty whether the Finnish dealers got a small batch in this month (stated it earlier but may not be the case). Foreign dealers don't have the coin for sale because Moneta hasn't distributed to them yet.
I know 2 online shops in Netherlands and 1 online shop in Germany that sell those coins, which is not surprising because everybody can buy rolls from the speculation network...
Just like the Finnish dealers you mention do, as I suppose, unless of course you have info from Nordic Moneta that they actually delivered those dealers. Just ask yourself the question why other larger Finnish sellers don't sell the coin, why did Nordic Moneta not deliver to them?
Biggest problem at the moment is, that yet it is not known this particular coin will be distributed by Nordic Moneta at all, it still is possible that only through the current unofficial channels this coin will be available.
numismax wrote:Regarding what you said about my coins, you're wrong. I found several circ coins and these are brilliant compared to them. Plus the seller has a high reputation and sells on the largest Finnish auction site. My coins are UNC, just accept it.
Because of the design with large fields on it this coin, it will degrade in circulation soon, on your coins there are already marks and scratches, which of course can already occur in the Mint, but normally Finnish Mint delivers very high quality.
I have see pictures of better coins.
I accept what I want, and to me your coins are not UNC. But everybody has a right on his own opinion, and you post pictures, so everybody who want to buy can see what he gets, that is fair!